November 21, 2013
How to open/ twist off the cover of some really stupid/ awkward/ flush mounted ceiling light dome fittings/ fixtures to replace/ change light bulb
You’re here because you are trying to replace a bulb and can’t. I had a similar issue some time ago and failed. I had to call a professional electrician. I have posted my research on this post. A lot of other people have provided their ideas, as well.
1) SCREWED TYPE : Remove the screws
IT IS UNLIKELY THAT YOU’VE GOT SUCH A SYSTEM, ELSE YOU’D NOT BE HERE.
Most dome ceiling lights have screws that
(A) screw in from the side to hold the dome in place or
(B) the dome has a metal frame that supports the glass dome. Ones with a frame generally have 2-3 screws through the frame that hold the frame to the ceiling flange. Metal “objects” on the frame should be screws. Unscrew them and the dome should come free. If they are not screws they may be some sort of decorative head on a threaded post but they should still unscrew.
1. Locate one or more flat-headed screws on the metal collar (the round part into which the globe is inserted).
2. Place one hand on the bottom of the globe and support it at all times.
3. Turn at least one of the screws on the collar counter-clockwise to loosen it. Take it outwards – without removing it from the fitting.
4.You should be able to remove the globe without completely removing the screw.
- Try twisting the lamp in either direction.
HAS A METAL THING
- Pull the metal “thing” out as if it were a nail. Pull the little metal button out – parallel to the ceiling. That could move two prongs (like large metal staples) inwards, thereby releasing the shade.
- Slide that little metal thingamajig sticking out of the top of the lamp sideways.
2) NOTCH/GROOVE MECHANISM: Twist and pull down
The glass dome may have been fitted onto the base through a notch/grove type mechanism.
- Pressing up on the glass lightly while twisting the pulling down may release it.
- Turn slightly until you find the notch, then you push up into the notch & pull down
- One person should pin the metal against the ceiling with the end of a broom stick while the other person should push or move the dome
For a fitting with a metal pole coming through the centre of the dome:
- Hold on to the glass, but pull the metal piece a bit to one side and then unscrew it.
EXAMPLE FROM Trung Le Quoc: “we figured out how to open this light fixture: we just simply pulled the cover downward.”
3) SPRING LOADED: Pull/ tap/ turn/ nudge
If not “screwed”, then you may have a spring-loaded frame. This is quite challenging, with tens of options. These type have clips inside the globe, spring loaded that press outwards holding the globe in place.
1. Flush-mounted light fixtures that are spring-loaded will typically have two springs holding the metal collar in place.
2. Using the flathead screwdriver or razor knife, loosen the paint by moving around the metal collar where it attaches to the ceiling.
3. Attempt to pry the light fixture from the springs by pulling down with your hands.
4. If you cannot remove fixture with your hands, use the flathead screwdriver or razor knife to pry it off by sliding it under the mouth of the metal collar and prying down.
5. The light fixture will hold itself in place as you change the bulb. Simply remove the existing bulb and replace it with the new one.
6. Replace the fixture by popping it back into place.
Simply pull the globe off.
Carefully tug a bit on the metal frame and see if it will pull down. The whole frame and dome will come down enough to swing out of the way so you can change the bulb.
For the one with two big metal clips INSIDE the glass bowl, just pull to one side until the first side unclips (putting it back on is more nerve wracking!)
Hold metal frame and pull down on glass fixture. One side starts coming out giving confidence to pull more. Finally remove the glass to find three spring clips that hold the glass fixture.
Tap the metal ring gently the dome pops out.
Turn the glass globe – there should be a peg on the holder and a slot along the base of the glass. It might be pretty heavy so hang on and use a ladder.
Use a screw driver to nudge the dome and it comes off.
PRESSURE ON THE EDGES
Apply pressure not at the center but around the edges
4) COMPLEX: Turn and pull down (SLOTTED CONNECTORS)
Some have slotted connectors so that you turn it about 1/8 to 1/4 turn and then pull down, similar to the way a smoke detector is removed from its base.
TWIST the glass counterclockwise and it unscrews (there are three metal bumps on the INSIDE that hold it when you screw it back.
Scroll down to see if you find the light fixture you are looking for.
See this for types. A flush-mounted light fixture has its rim positioned flush against the ceiling.
1. Locate the ornamental finial (round thingy – bolt) in the bottom of the light.
2. Hold the glass part of the light with one hand.
3. Turn the finial (round thingy – bolt) counter-clockwise to loosen it.
4. When it is completely loose, carefully lower the glass part. You will have to completely detach the finial, so be careful not to drop it.
“the video (below) shows how to install this fixture. Reversed the directions and fast forward toward the end to find out how to remove the lamp itself. Prior to watching this video I had a hard time unscrewing the little bolt that holds the lamp to the ceiling.”
FROM A READER: I could not get the glass dome to budge on a flush-mounted ceiling fixture. It seemed like it should twist counter clockwise. So, I sprayed WD40 between the glass dome and the metal holder (and caught the dripping with a paper towel), waited about 5 minutes, and then gently smacked the glass dome twice in a counter clockwise direction with the heel of a walking shoe. Yes. A shoe. Worked like magic. The dome moved about 1/8 of an inch each time. It was then loose enough for me to twist off. I had read on another site about a guy using a rubber mallet to do the same thing. I didn’t have a rubber mallet, but I figured a show might work. See attached dome and shoe!
[Sanjeev: I’m posting the dome, not the shoe]
FROM Strat Egerie ON 29 JANUARY 2017
I put CFL bulbs in two of these maybe 15 years ago, and one one burnt-out I was at a total loss on how to change it. I took another look and realize that if I held the metal part and twisted the Dome counterclockwise it popped right off.
I’m putting in LED bulbs this time and hope to never have to change them again.
To open the above see this: http://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/20740/how-do-i-remove-a-flush-mounted-ceiling-light-fixture-dome
To open this:
To open this see:
For this (below)
See this: http://www.doityourself.com/forum/lighting-light-fixtures-ceiling-exhaust-fans/509597-how-open-ceiling-light-fixtures.html
See this: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=533955
NOW HERE’S ONE THAT ROTATES
Here’s one that a reader sent – along with a solution:
Solution: “We carefully pushed one end away from us (horizontally), and gently pulled it down. It came undone/unsnapped, and then the other end was easy. ”
RECEIVED FROM ANGELA POOLE ON 26 DECEMBER 2015
This got solved by Andy who wrote to me on 23 January 2018: “My fixture looks identical to one of the unsolved ones on your page. Just pull one side down to access.
Received by email on 8 December 2016: “Squirt some Bang foam cleaner or other glass cleaner solution around rim of light cover. Wait a minute & easily twist off!!”
There’s also apparently a “can type” ceiling fixture. No idea what it looks like.
I hope I’ve helped you in some way. If not, please make note of actions taken by your electrician to fix the problem and send me your notes at email@example.com. I’ll add your notes to this post.
SOLUTIONS NOT YET FOUND
RECEIVED ON 14 APRIL 2018
The white bulb doesn’t work but I can’t get the cover off to replace it – wedging a screwdriver I can see the dome has a lip all the way round inside which sits on the lower rim of the upper section, so no slots or clips. Both are plastic and the upper section is half inch away from the ceiling. Ruining a finger round the top I can’t feel any springs or clips. I’d like to be able to get the cover off and change the white bulb plus remove the green light
Someone sent me this on 16 February 2015, with a comment “I have tried twisting pulling but won’t budge. I’m afraid of taking the ceiling down with me.”
RECEIVED FROM JACLYN ON 19 MARCH 2015
I have two of this light in my hall. The first bulb blew and we tried to change it and couldn’t but didn’t worry about it because we had a second light. Well, two days ago the second one goes. So we are trying to no avail.
RECEIVED BY EMAIL ON 29 MARCH 2015 FROM MIRANDA
Any advice? Here is a close up–there are two of these not-screws on two sides
RECEIVED FROM TOM ON 24 FEBRUARY 2016
Tom says: “I am confused by the metal tab. It doesn’t seem to do anything and I can’t pull it off. Turning doesn’t seem to work either. Any ideas?”
Lisa wrote on 14 July 2017: After weeks of trying I have finally got the fixture off! My light is like the unsolved one submitted by Tom on 24 February 2016. Push metal tab to left at the same time as twisting lamp cover to the right. Sorted!
A FAN LIGHT
Thanks for your website about lighting fixtures. Crazy that one is needed! Hoping you can help us.
We have a Hampton Bay Caswyck ceiling fan (pictured below) and the bottom dome lights have burnt out. But when we try to loosen the bottom bowl, the top spins too. It only moves about a 1/4 or 1/2 inch each way and I haven’t tried harder for fear of breaking. No manuals are available online. What do you think? Any advice??
On 13 August 2017 Luther Reames asked: Any suggestion on how to change the bulb in this thing?
Here’s one that a reader sent – he can’t open it and I have no idea either:
ADDENDUM LED LIGHT SYSTEMS
LED light systems are equally or more complex. I have the following model installed in my bedrooms: dl13smd3000k ip44 saa.
I found a clip on this that comes off. I suppose that will allow other similar ones to be installed.
Lawrence Leibowitz sent me this on 10 October 2017:
He asked: “How do I remove for replacement? No visible screws. Bar does rotate about 15-20 degrees in either direction so maybe that’s the key but I don’t want to force it any further.”
Stupid light is not opening
Ceiling light not opening
What fools make these light fittings and waste millions of hours of mankind
Bulbs in recessed light fixtures can be hard to remove.
overhead lights without screws, tabs, nothing.
No locking mechanism or thread.
Examples of search text that brings people to this post. Clearly there is a HUGE issue re: ceiling lights. Is the industry listening? At a minimum, this is getting really amusing…
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Wow, thanks very much!! You have brought light back in my life 😁
I found this article in 2020 and it came in very handy. Very good write up and very much appreciated. Thank you love you.
I don’t understand how you got the answer to your problem with the light cover? I am having the same issue but I have pulled and turned the cover, the base every which way and it seems to be held by a spring type attachment.
Thanks for this site. I think I will let the wife break it off…
I did the same thing and bought one with a simple lever action to release cover lol
I have the round glass with screws at sides light shades can b awkward but always done until my bathroom light went which looks exactly the same but actually has a plastic screw in by slotting in basewhich took me two days to figure out because u cant see anything and it wouldn’t come off frustration n not havinga light in there just kept pulling at it and off it came eventually look inside glassn has plastic slots hope this helps somebody
thanks for setting up this page; I’m sure it helps many folks. I had a different kind of light & can send you some pics of how to open it, if you tell me your info.
Thanks. Pl. send pics to me at firstname.lastname@example.org
I have an old wall sconce that is brass and only has brass pins on the top and bottom sides, flush mount, I have tried to pull them out and have not been able to. Any advice?
A 12"-14" Drum-style Flush Ceiling Fixture/Heavy Glass purchased at Lowe's 2 yrs ago!!
Needed to replace bulbs! Imagine 3 unknowledgeable sisters & a do anythg for his Nana grandson standing in a chair( very wrong), &1on a step stool trying to take down a fixture that feels like 50 pounds suspended and we all are taking turns holding it up! (Good
I thought to Cut the Power Off!!)
We can't figure out how to get the glass globe off! We end up dismantling the entire fixture because we couldn't leave it hanging TOO Heavy &couldnt line it up with the 2 screws to put it back!!
It was all attached to ceiling by the hot cold &grounding wire & the suspended weight was unbearable.
Once on the counter we're Still unable to budge this globe! We've twisted poked prod NOTHING!
A Sat evening so no maintence crew available &theyre scared they'll break it!I
Googled our dilemma & Your blog popped up!
About to try the pushing up method -whn we figure this out we'll put a 10yr bulb lol before we tackle this again- who are the idiots making this?!
Stay tuned &I'll post a photo…hopefully when all is said & done this will help someone else thank you blogger, these can be extremely helpful especially with photos.
3ladies & aKid
I have the same problem with a drum ceiling light fixture don’t know how to change the bulb? Any solutions anybody?
I’m a widow and I don’t want to worry the kids- so happy to find this forum. I still haven’t got the dome off, but I feel better knowing there are others out there who have trouble with what SHOULD be a simple task.
Open-Ceiling Mounted Fixture: If there is a gap between the ceiling and the glass dome cover (no rim, not flush with the ceiling), then you will notice a pin with a knob protuding from the whole assembly – it will be parallel to the ceiling. Just hold the glass cover SECURELY with one hand and firmly pull or tug the knob outward. The cover will be immediately released and resting on your hand.
Twisting the cover, as you will have noticed, is USELESS regardless of the pressure or no pressure in any direction. I spent a week trying to figure this out.
Thanks so much for this page. I had been trying for hours at my aged parents’ house to change a single bulb when I found it and will significantly improve the level of lighting in the house now I’ve found it as it solved similar issues with about 6 light fittings. 🙂
We’ve got 62 – 62! – stupid little halogen ceiling lights. They are an absolute sod to remove. In the living room we have given up trying and bought some free-standing uplighters instead.
I had a contractor install my bathroom ceiling light. I did not know how to change the light bulb so I went on the internet. I went to the manufacture’s web site and was instructed on how to change every light fixture but the one I purchased. First I had to learn from other sites, that my light was a flush mount dome ceiling light, then I ask the question. How do I change the light bulb on a flush mount dome light? Every dome light website out there came up except the one I have. Thank god your web site was among them. The lightning company has not gone berserk. They know exactly what they are doing and so do I.They have produced these user unfriendly ceiling lights so we have to buy the globe from them if we break it trying to change the light bulb.
Got the lightbulbs replaced, but it’s one of the stupid single screw types with a heavy glass cover. Now I can’t get the stupid thing to stay up and holding a glass cover over my head is getting exhausting!
Same problem. Mine came down OK with no help. I am on here trying to find out how to get it back up. Has 3 screws and only one will unscrew. The other two won’t budge.
Our bathroom ceiling light has 2 screws with triangular head which needs a key to open. Where can I get hold of such a key?? Helps me to know that I’m not the only one having difficulty to change a light bulb!! Probably a hammer will do it!!!!!!!!
Found that a 5mm socket does the job!
I think we should recruit monkeys or school children to design these things.
I bet there is a BSI kitemark WHAT A JOKE.
I am remodeling a rental and bought 3 used closed dome flush mount style that twist off at the Habitat for Humanity Restore. Now I know why the people that donated them got rid of them. With the fixture sitting on a table I pushed down in the middle as I twisted with all my strength and it would not budge. Because they were not installed yet I was able to gently tap the metal edge on a table repeatedly as I rotated the fixture. That did the trick, but now I am worried that after they are installed in the rental the tenants won’t be able to get them off in the future to replace bulbs. I am hoping for ideas on how to prevent the covers from being jammed so I don’t have to go out and buy new fixtures that don’t twist off.
Still cannot change my lightbulb (been trying for 2 months to no avail) but at least I got a laugh from your site and know I am not alone. Why do they design lights like this? This should be a simple task! My daughter uses a flashlight to get into her closet because her widowed mother cannot figure out how to change the lightbulb.
RECEIVED BY EMAIL ON 22 APRIL 2015 FROM JONNY
This one I can only classify as a veritable ship-in-a-bottle.
It's a four sided outdoor, flush mounted ceiling light with not one single screw to be found anywhere. It has four panes of glass (or should I say, "pains" of glass?) that are all trapezoids of the same size and shape, that taper inward at the bottom.
Each pane of glass relies on gravity to stay in place and each can be easily tilted in such a way that offers a glimmer of hope at being able to reach in and change it, but I can't figure out the proper method or sequence to do so.
Do you have any experience with such a ridiculous design? A freakin rubik's cube is easier to solve.
We are selling our house and our first night showing is tonight. Any ideas?
Have one of these lights and since the unit is for rental I guess the best option is to replace it. What a light designer? No, a idiot is the proper name.
Happy I found your site! First time I’ve had to change a flush mount ceiling light since moving into this new house. Haven’t attempted it yet but have gathered enough info here to know what to try. So how many homeowners does it take to change a light bulb? Only one, but the light bulb really has to want to change 🙂
I had similar one as you described. I tried once and could not figure out and then left it no fixed for 2 ms w/o light in the bathroom :-(( which is really bad). I decided to find out the problem today. Firstly, since i did not find any clue from the bulb and the cover. I decided to go to the attic to see if I can change the bulb from there. When i went to the narrow attic and screw off one of the nail, i was thinking it should not be that complicated. I went down to the bathroom and investigated closely to the cover, tried to turn the metal square/or press on the glass cover/or turn the glass cover around, none of them worked. But when i pressed on the glass cover, I found it had some space to move from right to left. So I tried to move it the maxim limit from left to right, i found a little knot in the middle of one side of the square. I pressed up and finally took this side off and the other side was easier.
I have one that looks like this one https://technical.sabhlokcity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/ceiling-light-1.png and I was able to take it off by twisting it but I can’t put it back anymore! There are a couple of screws in the ceiling and keyhole type mounting holes in the fixture that I am supposed to align but I just can’t get them to align. I am not very handy any tips?
I HAVE HOME ENTRANCE FLUSH FITTED SENSOR CEILING DOME LIGHT NO SCREWS EXACTLY LIKE THE ITEM REFERRED TO IN UPLOAD 2013/11 I AM TRYING TO REPLACE A BLOWN GLOBE
We have this same dome ceiling light with frosted dome glass fitted into round metal base; no screws or knobs showing from outside. It took us 2 days to figure out how to change the light bulb. The glass unscrews. There are 3 metal bumps on the inside of the metal base. The glass dome has grooves along its edge where the metal bumps slide along. Turn the glass dome counter-clockwise until the metal bumps of the base hit openings in the glass grooves and then the glass dome slides off. The glass initially wouldn’t move, so we gently pried the glass from the metal using a screwdriver. We had to jostle the glass back and forth clockwise and counter-clockwise to start it moving.
Just had the same problem in my new home thank you for posting this.
The fact you have to push up so hard you feel your going to break it is a tad scary these things are going away soon…
I have found that if I put a small piece of painters masking tape on the raised metal area that hold the shade on it helps later when you want to twist it off, the glass shade does not get jammed on tight that way. I tried to put in on the glass shade when I first tried this but it would not stick as well.
I have the fixture that you posted a picture of above, with the note “a reader sent – he can’t open it and I have no idea either”…I just pull down on the whole fixture, and the metal frame pulls down and away from the base that holds the light bulbs.
Only problem is, tonight (it’s 15 years old so I’ve done this many many times before) the base pulled away from the ceiling as well; the one screw attaching the base to the ceiling came out and it will be nearly impossible to thread it back into its tiny hole while holding onto the base and a screwdriver!!!
Now I’m at a loss.
No picture of my problem light fixture. It has a slot for the spot light to shine through. Help someone,
I have two that look like this: http://blog.lightsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Maxim-Lighting-Malibu-flush-mount.png
I’ve twisted, looked for one prong with a spring, everything. I’m tempted to just break it i’m so frustrated. Does anyone have an idea?
Hi Sam. I’m struggling with same ceiling light. Did you ever get it figured. I’ve resigned myself to paying an electrician a stupid amount of money just to change a light bulb. Thanks.
I feel everybody’s frustration! My frustration was centered around the same type of domed glass that sits within three hooked metal tabs (Samantha’s pic).
Solution: One of the tabs is spring-loaded. Find the spring-loaded tab by pulling each one outwards, away from centre of light fixture. Push the dome towards ceiling as you pull the spring-loaded tab outwards so it can clear the lip of the dome. Keep ahold of the dome. There is just enough clearance to slip that edge out, then you can slip the dome out from the other two tabs. (Found the answer on an old thread on a gaming site of all places!) Good luck!
Thank you, thank you! I’ve puzzled about those very same style of fixtures off and on for the past 4 years!! No burned out bulbs, but they sure needed cleaning! I bought LED bulbs so was determined to figure it out this time. Your post was spot on and very helpful!
You helped me!
Thanks for your site. My dome had 3 meatl prongs inside the globe that held the glass in. It was easy to push up and then twist and pull down. I would of never figured it out. THANKS FOR THE ADVICE
I have a confounded spring loading dome fixture with two metal tabs. Easy to pull it off. Cannot get it back for the life of me many tries.
Most ceiling dome lights are crap. Replace the three bulbs, two ALWAYS ALWAYS, burn out in a couple months. The remaining lone bulb shines for years. The screw at the bottom to hold the glass dome in place always unscrews the entire bolt making it frustrating and time consuming to fix things. The twist in glass dome held by three bumps in the casing do not work. The dome just pops out and shatters on the floor at some unforseen future date. Avoid ceiling dome lights. Just spackle over the hole and paint the ceiling.
It is likely that the bulbs are burning out because they are overheating. Once two are out, the third one is ok because there is less heat generated from one bulb alone.
The real helpful hint here was using a broom stick to hold the fixture against the ceiling.
With my wife holding the stick I was easily able to twist off the globe.
I moved into my new home where the previous owners had already installed kitchen ceiling lights which are quite modern in design. The acrylic cubes covers are long and I cannot get my fingers in to replace the pin type halogen lightbulb. I already tried twisting the cubes in either direction but they don’t loosen and don’t appear to come off. Has anyone ever had experience with this type of light fixture? Is there a tool I need to use? Thank you to anybody who has a suggestion, short of replacing the lights. I really like them and the directed light they provide.
My ceiling light glass cover is threaded, but its very tight and when I twist it anticlockwise , it does not come out. Any suggestion to help me fix it, I held it up and not using since 2 months :(. Please help
Small old frosted screw in dome on a aluminum base. Slowly pry a rocking clockwise-counterclockwise action with minnie screw driver between glass and base “gently, its glass”, you’ll get a space going. Soon you get a bit of play. Now twisting it, worked.
I talked my husband into letting me hold a broom on the metal piece, and it worked! He has been trying to get the glass cover off for a long time.
My daughter has just moved into a place where the kitchen lights only had two of nine recessed lights working.I have replaced one led bulb for her, though it’s hanging, which is explained by the second which was held by a clip which I cannot for the life of me replace. The third had been painted over to such an extent I won’t touch it. And I’m a reasonably good electrician! Any ideas. Thanks!
When I tried to turn the globe counter-clockwise, I managed to shear off a metal peg that was holding the whole ceiling fan from turning with my globe efforts. I’m almost afraid to turn the fan on….
Now that I’ve broken it, will I get a refund? This really sucks!
I have the same light as someone posted at the bottom of this. The Yosemite flush mount. I also watched that same video on INSTALLING IT! Just to learn that decorative screw is in fact a screw. Sure didn’t help in REMOVING IT!
There is no way to grip it. It’s too rounded to get with pliers, vice grip, fingers… Thing will NOT budge. I can wiggle the glass globe a tiny bit but that screw isn’t moving. Tried grabbing it with a bit of suede thinking it might grip better. No good.
I’m about two seconds from putting a paper bag over the thing and just hitting it with a flipping hammer!!!!! Buy one that makes SENSE!
I found the website selling these. (made in china, go figure.)
Sent them a note. We’ll see if they come up with something.
That thing was in the house when we bought it. Boy I’d NEVER INSTALL a piece of S*** like this. Don’t they realize real people will need to change a bulb once in awhile? And a KITCHEN light is one of the most likely ones to get a little cruddy inside? (Bathroom is worse, and that one is already broken. No loss trust me. Wall mount lights. Easier, less likely to get bopped when a tall person gets dressed. That came crashing down on my daughter.)
Please help. I bought two of these cos I thought they looked good. Silly me. I know it takes 2 people to access old bulb, but even then I can’t see how it’s done. The hanging metal screws don’t seem to turn, neither does the glass cover. I daren’t push hard as I think I can feel electric wires loosening on the ceiling. I hate these things with a passion. They weren’t cheap; i “treated” myself. Has anyone come across this before, and how to deal with them? (Picture is in website)
I swear engineers that design these things are literally retarded. Anyone hiring engineers? I’m not am embineer, but I could design a light far better than the ones sold today. So annnoying.
Extremely good point! Apparently some engineers are total sell-outs for incredibly inferior quality; preferring financial rewards to the ethics of a decent product. It reminds me of some US cars built in the 1970’s.
Well I just broke the *%&@* glass dome on mine!
Thank you for this site. Like many others I was stumped which led me to this site. I was able to finally get to my bulbs and change them but the ordeal reminded me of something i was told when i was young. If you hear hoof beats, don’t start looking for zebras, its probably just a horse. Meaning if you can’t get the dome off your flush mounted ceiling light its probably not because you have some bizzarre fixture, its probably something simple. In my case after pulling and twisting and prying and pressure up down and sideways, i finally gave the outer metal ring a few taps around, and then the dome easily screwed off. Sometimes things just get stuck.
Thanks so much for all the content and for making me feel less foolish knowing i was not alone. And how many lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb? Three. One to climb the ladder, one to knock the ladder over and one to sue the ladder company.
For the picture posted by Angela Poole, you just pull down hard on the two sides with clips… the whole fixture front will extend with the clips.
Thank you! You’ve saved our light 😉
I am having trouble with a different type of light. Specifically a vanity light with the glass globes. Also seen on ceiling fans. Basically, the base light fixture mounts on the wall and has the ceramic light bulb sockets. Difference being, they are externally threaded. This comes into play when you put the glass over it and then put this nut on it to hold the glass. It’s pretty simple. However, I have a fixture that my hand does not fit into. Short of having someone with smaller hands come over I’m at a loss. Does anyone have an idea for or know of a tool to unscrew these? I’ve linked to an image of what I mean.
I have a similar problem, except mine is inverted (upside down). It’s maddening!
Help Please!! I have a rectangular plastic light cover in the shower that spins around but does not come off and I am showering in the dark. Does anyone know how to get the cover off to change the bulb? The cover is dropped slightly from the ceiling now and you can see a black rectangular foam piece that fills the space between the ceiling and the cover. The cover turns but that’s it. If you can offer some advice I’d appreciate it.
Thank you, thank you. I have the spring loaded type, I was pretty sure that was the way to open it, but it was stubborn that I would not have continued without your help
Having recently moved into my lovely flat I needed to remove the cover from my bathroom light because over the years there’s quite a lot of dust accumulated inside.
Having tried to dismantle it for a couple of days I’ve now decided to leave the dust where it is!
Why do they make things like this?
Your website is remarkably useful. Thank you for maintaining it. Was able to get information on two separate light fixtures that had been giving me fits in this ‘built-in-the-40s-refurbished-in-the-60s-and-again-in-the-70s-and-again-in-each-decade-following’ house we just started renting.
Here is my problem. Whoever wired the house we just bought did NOT wire the light switches to the ceiling light–they are wired to turn on an outlet plug. So, to turn on my ceiling fan and light, I MUST pull the chains. Well, I had on both fan and light and went to turn them off. The fan chain broke off in my hand. So, the fan is running and I can NOT figure out how to get the confounded dome off to reach the end of the chain. There is a metal “cap” but it is flat and does not turn. Help! And thank you.
Regarding Angela Poole’s fixture.
Look carefully through the grate. You’ll find two screws. Loosen or remove both, then twist the whole thing, grate and all, counter clockwise and it will come down.
Help please. I have a globe hanging on a metal rod with 2 metal plates. The top plate is solid round, whereas the bottom one has a cut-out. I suppose I should start with one of the cut-out side and try and rotate the globe in? It just doesn’t work and I have now cut my finger as I rotated the glass so much round the metal plate that splinters have appeared. I am ready to smash the globe. Help
Thanks to your site and so many user comment… that gave me the courage to try and tackle this myself…
Turns out, after I finally got the two spring side clips to unspring… that it was an LED lighting fixture…!!!
And thus my hopes of getting a dimmer to work…. here in the bedroom… were dashed…. :-0
Sanjeev…. you deserve a medal of honor… nay… a nobel piece prize… this is the second review i have EVER written on any website, i usually reserve my commentary, however, it needs to be said… you sir are a genius. Thank you for helping my with my light, thank you for making this site, thank you for being top website on google for this issue so I could come here first… THANKKKKK YOU!
Square ceiling light fixture – just spent two of the most frustrating hours in my old life. Bulbs needed changing and could not for the life of me figure out how to access the bulbs. The person (idiot) who designed it should be locked up. Never have I encountered such a devious mind in designing something that would confound a genius. Last resort decided to try to rip it off the ceiling. In the process discovered it pulled straight down to a point and retained by springs suspending fron the base. What a farce this was. If you have one take a hammer to it like Hillary.
Heeeeelp! trying to remove my flush ceiling light cover which is acrylic and has a metal ring flush to the ceiling.no screws no clips nothing. The light bulbs are completely out and need to be changed. I have tried to turn it in both directions to unscrew the Dome. I have tried to pull out ,push in and do both at the same time.nothing! Help.
Use re-enforced packing tape (the kind with thread in it) and wrap it around the glass dome cover. Make sure you don’t tape to the chrome base. At about the half way point, create a ‘handle’ by folding the tape to itself and then continue to wrap around the rest of the lamp cover. Wear safety glasses and then slowly turn counter-clockwise (think of unscrewing a light bulb). The make-shift handle will give you better leverage to control and turn the dome cover. Use Vaseline on grooves when putting back together. Better yet, replace the piece of crap with a new lamp fixture with external nut or easier disassembly process.
Ceiling lights in bathroom. Flush/ inset flat halogen.
The bulb has gone and needs replacing. All of the other lights unscrew from their metal casing no problem. This one won’t turn and come away from the soft plastic in order to access the bulb casing. It will pull down intact but can’t access the bulb.
Any suggestions to loosen it please?
Thank you! Hopefully this article never gets removed!
A comment received by email: Squirt some Bang foam cleaner or other glass cleaner solution around rim of light cover. Wait a minute & easily twist off!!
Solution for Tom’s problem! I had the same issue as the one described by Tom (see “RECEIVED FROM TOM ON 24 FEBRUARY 2016”). A glass dome with zero metal, no screwing of the dome itself, no springs. I guess reading here gave me inspiration: I slipped a finger between ceiling and dome (1.5 cm space there), and felt with the tip of my finger all around the narrow ring that connects the dome to the ceiling. Ah! A metal thingy, felt no bigger than 2 mm wide, sticking out of the ring. Tried pulling it, pushing, moving it sideways – to no avail. Then my nail accidentally scratched it – it wasn’t smooth. Started probing it with my fingernail – Ah! A slit! A screw??? But even it I manage to get a screwdriver in there, how will I put it in place without looking? Well, I guided the tip of a screwdriver with the tip of my finger, and – bingo! Started turning – yes, it turns! I started feeling the the thingy is getting longer- it was coming out! Tried supporting the dome with one hand while turning the screwdriver with the other until at once it was free in my hand. Turns out the mechanism is agonizingly simple. The dome, at the narrow circular opening that faces the ceiling, has a groove all around. Think of it as wool collar of a sweater that hangs at the very end leaning outside. The circular (glass) collar fits inside a metal plate the is screwed to the ceiling, the metal plate surrounds the glass collar of the dome. The screw passes through the edge of the metal plate and fits into the groove in the collar. In this what keeps it up there. One screw and a groove. The Occam razor of stupid-awkward-flush-mounted-ceiling-light-dome-fittings.
SOLVED – I have the same light as Tom. No hidden screws unfortunately, just the metal tab that slides in and out. Move the tab 60 degrees clockwise (looking up from below) it pulls in three supports holding the glass on the inside. Support the glass before moving the tab as it will fall off as soon as the supports are retracted. Presumably the tab slides in just to hide it. My ceiling plate was loose so had to hold it to stop it rotating when moving the tab.
Thanks Marcus, pushing harder TAB to 60 degrees clockwise solved my problem too.
No way was I going to work that out on my own. Thought the tab was a clip that had been freed. Didn’t notice it pulled or slid.
You have no idea how much potential time-wasting you have just saved me!
you should take a picture of it when it was open, … so what was the “tab” purpose, does it show screw position, or there was no tab in your case?
I did it!!!!! None of the above seemed to help, so I simply stuck a knife in between the metal and glass … (at the point where I notice a small bump) and slowly pulled it down! Five hours of researching and several hands on attempts later.. IT WORKED ……. I did’nt give up…… BRAVO me! 🙂
Sometimes one just has to praise oneself when there is no one else around to do so ! Hahaha
Sometimes you just have to take a step back… after trying to get my fingers between the ceiling and the top of the glass fixture to turn the little screws unsuccessfully, looked for help online. After looking at your posting, realized the the little screws actually needed a screwdriver to turn them! Amazing how dumb a simple light fixture can make you feel. Thanks for prompting the ha-ha moment
Thank you! I couldn’t get the one that has the single groove up inside to twist to open – it really helped to see that it was an actual problem and not just me. I was prepared to break the globe to get it down and buy something more user friendly. I got a screwdriver and prodded the edges – I was afraid to squirt liquid at an electrical thing – since others have survived this tactic I will know what to use next time. There was some rust or brown deposit that was sticking the globe to the base and I will put Vaseline or tape on the thread for next time. Your website has saved the life of an endangered glass globe!
I have two of these lights.
I removed the finial and there is threaded rod with a nut holding the glass tight.
On the first light, the glass just drops down when you remove the nut. On the second light, the glass doesn’t budge when you remove the nut. Needless to say, I can change the bulbs in one and not the other. Please help
Thank you for this. The bulb went in my original 1950s light fixture and I had no idea what to do. Now I know it’s a closed style flush mounted fixture with a finial. It was a bit tricky to get off because I have high ceilings and am actually sick at the moment (dizzyness isn’t helped by trying to reach high above your head) but I did it and won’t need to spend a second evening in darkness.
Mine was a notch/groove type thingy. Took me ages to fathom it perched on a dodgy stepladder and in the end the whole s*dding contraption came out of the ceiling. I had to re-rawlplug the ceiling to put the b*st*rd thing back up. I found it helpful to swear fulsomely. Thanks for this website – we must all stand together to defeat these stupid bl**dy things.
I have gate lights that have globes over the bulbs. I need to replace a light bulb, BUT I simply cannot get the globe to unscrew from its base. I’ve replace the bulbs before (a few years ago) and didn’t have trouble, but one of the globes just refuses to budge. I do not want to break the globe, but I want to replace the bulb. Do you have any suggestions to my getting the d— globe to turn so I can lift it off to replace the blub? SIncerely I am.
This is a solution for the Yosemite type “Single screw in the middle dome fixture” a user had posted. Tried many things, including some of your guy’s advice and failed repeatedly :-(… but this is what worked for me. I slowwwwwlllly worked a box cutter in between the nut/cap and was able to then unscrew without any problems.. Here are some photos, hope they help some of you frustrated/desperate people like I was haha
Thank you. The guy with the WD40 suggestion and the shoe solved our problem. We were able to get the dome off to change the bulb. Wonder if we can buy a screw with a protruding small handle instead of that flat difficult to work with flat ring?
I tried the wd-40 also between the metal ring and glass on a flush mount. it came right off. After getting glass off i lubed the 3 metal prongs that hold glass on with lube.
Thanks for maintaining this page. I finally found a solution that you may want to share. Ironically, the people tempted to use a hammer in frustration were close — using a hammer gently.
Mine was the type where it seemed the glass dome should unscrew from the metal flange. There didn’t appear to be any internal hinges to let it swing down. But the glass wouldn’t budge. So, it must be some other fastener that I’m missing, right?
Nope. The glass needs to unscrew, and unbudging it is the problem that needs to be solved.
The fix for that is light taps with something rubber. The rubber end of the handle of a hammer, for example. (I started smaller, but the handle of a screwdriver doesn’t have enough mass.) Naturally, you have to proceed carefully, but if you don’t hit it with metal and give it a few light taps all the way around, that unsticks it without breaking the glass.
Then return to the effort of unscrewing the glass. You may still need a helper to hold the metal flange in place if it is loose.
Incidentally, I got this solution from this YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol6ikKG8UR4
Thank you. After reading this I closely examined my flush mount fixture. I had the kind where the glass dome has grooves and it twists onto the metal. Low and behold, at some point the prior owner must have painted the metal ring white and there was a tiny amount of paint sealing the glass to the metal. Once I broke that seal the glass dome moved and I was able to replace the bulbs. THANKS for this helpful website
Page is missing HUGE HUGE fundamental. To take off dome do you move it clockwise or counterclockwise? Thanks.
You tell me. I don’t know. This page is a piece of research + public feedback. We are building the truth from each other’s limited time and knowledge.
Just to add my two cents worth.
WD-40 helped a lot with one of them.
For the other, a knife between dome and flush mount seemed to do the trick after liberal amounts of WD-40.
Thanks for keeping this page active.
Any ideas on how to remove the dome of this one? There were two screws at the base of the drum, that I have already removed. The glass looks as if it sits on a lip of the drum and moves freely, when twisted. It can be pushed up slightly.
Hi, I’ve recently moved into a property and all the light fittings are extremely dusty with bulbs that have gone. I’ve managed to suss out all but one of the light fittings and I really have no idea how to remove the shades. There is a small Allen key hole by each shade but this doesn’t seem to do anything. The light takes G4 bulbs and the shades are too tiny to get my fingers into to pull out the bulb. If I were to send pictures would you be so kind as to have a look and advise me? I’d be really grateful.
I’m afraid I have no expertise on this issue. This is just a compilation of info that I researched + sent to me by various people.
Anyone figure out how to do the one that Angela Poole posted? I have the same one and I couldn’t figure it out.
I have to say, I was at wit’s end and none of these helped to change my Frank Lloyd Wright/mission style porch light. Finally, I figured out that the glass on the bottom was loose and removable inside the frame. Duh.
Thank you very much for this website. At least I’m not alone. Will send you some pics of the difficulties I’m having with my ceiling light.
I have a 2 flourescent light in the laundry room, I removed the wrap around cover and
replaced one of the tubes, I can not get the cover back on. Any ideas? HELP
If nothing else makes sense, and it is round, concentrate on the glass. You may need rubber gloves to get a grip. It worked on mine. Also, if you know where you got the fixture, check online to find an installation manual.
I have the Yosemite type flush to ceiling type as depicted above. The globe turns OK but turning it gets me nowhere. The finial turns a tiny bit and then freezes. I still haven’t been able to get the globe off. I am tempted to smash the globe and replace the whole fixture.
I have a plastic round cover that goes over 2 round flourescent bulbs. I was able to pull it off and it has 3 metal/aluminum tabs that held it in place. My problem is that I cannot get it back on. None of the 3 appear to be spring loaded. I can put the round cover over 2 of the 3 metal tabs, but cannot get it over the 3rd one. Anybody have that problem?
Thank you for this page! I’ve been without light in a vintage flush mount for too long! Now I’m seeing brightly! Mine was the one with the 3 prongs that clipped it in and the recommendation for moving the glass dome to the side and pulling down worked! Thanks!!!
RECEIVED FROM JACLYN ON 19 MARCH 2015 answer
The large white bulb has scewtread on it! Just turn it a couple of time to detach!
This is an old post, but I’m desperate. I have Jaclyn’s fixture. I’ve been turning, which isn’t easy to do, but it doesn’t unscrew.
I figured this one out! I had the same fixture in a second closet. The globe was missing, maybe broken when someone couldn’t get it off? I could see that there were some metal pieces inside that made for a pressure fit. All I had to do was pull straight down on the globe and it came right off.
Very grateful for this page. I didn’t feel so clueless knowing others were in the same boat.
Hi, I am struggling to change a bulb on my crystal led ceiling light.
Can you help me please.
Thank you for this. I had no idea what my light fixture was called and could only get it partially removed. Thanks to what you shared about the flush mount, I was able to finally get to my bulbs inside. I had not idea the center piece would turn. I had tried by hand but it was too tight or stuck so I used a shoe also and then some needle nose pliers to get it to budge a bit then it turned easy by hand, revealing the bolt & washer under it for me to unscrew. Even better was the lights aren’t even burned out, just a little loose.
I have a 2 light bar -wall mounted in the bathroom- on a wooden 18 inch bar-the globes are about 6 inches around and can be pulled away from the bar about an inch but seem to be held by some sort of spring mechanism -I don’t want to pull to much -to break the globe-anyone know what I’m looking for to release the spring mechasim an d then how to re-install ???
Try twisting it clockwise. Mine would not turn counter clockwise. Looking up at it, it looks wrong to turn clockwise but surprisingly it suddenly loosened and easily came off turning it clockwise. Good luck! If I kept trying to force it counter clockwise I probably would have broken the glass globe.
Thank you so much. I was going out my mind trying to twist off a fitting that just needed jiggling and pulling! All done now!
I will add one, a flat ceiling fixture around 12-14 inches in diameter — a frosted glass dish carried by three metal clasps each spaced at 120 degrees apart on the outer rim. The whole thing seems fixed in place with no visible way to service. But it turns out that two clasps are fixed and one can in fact be pulled away from the dish, parallel to the ceiling, to release that corner thus releasing the whole dish. Two 40W bulbs inside. Your site encouraged me to experiment and when I solved it, it opened easily. Thank you.
Thanks Erasmus! I kept pushing UP instead of pulling OUT!
Thank you! Stupid appartment light fixture… I can easily change a whole toilet, repair light switches, install a dishwasher ect…
But those pesky light fixtures always let me feeling dumb.
Thank you for publishing this website. Had 2 lights in my bathroom that went out and had no idea how to remove the globe. 1 light has been out for years. Only took me 3 minutes to find my fixture on this site and I had the globe off in seconds!!!!
I have a ceiling light fixture that pg&e installed 4 years ago. I’m trying to take it down to put a ceiling fan but for the life of me cannot figure out how to get it down from the ceiling. It doesnt have any light bulbs in it,and no screws screwing it in other than a few in the center but they are cover by a round glass center. I would attach a picture with this comment but I dont see any way to do so. I’ve only been at it for a day so I havnt exhausted all the ways of trying,I’m sure,but I’d rather not go through the wasted time and effort. So here I am writing this in hopes that someone can help me.
How to remove the cover of square recessed light fixture to change the bulb. Wow, this had me stumped .. no screws, glass wouldn’t slide and no spring action when I pushed/pulled on the glass. I found this video (link below) on YouTube and it worked like a charm … easy peasy!! In case the video doesn’t work … just pull whole frame (cover) downward, separating it from ceiling. I had to work my way around the frame pulling it down a little on each side until I had access to the bulb. Hope you find this helpful!
Thanks for the discussion. Our 20 year old shower light I just discovered simply pulls down. It is a white large cover with a black edging. I managed to get a screw driver between the white cover and the black edging careflly and then just prized them apart. It has gone back okay too.
Why oh why can’t the lighting industry make these things standard or simple? We have more lights of different kinds in my house than I have ever seen in a house and this one certainly foxed me for a time, including breaking the glass on my glasses climbing up my 3rd ladder to reach it having removed the plastic covering the top of the shower, a job and a half in itself. involving cutting the light cord.
THANK YOU for compiling this.
For bathroom lights directly fixed to the ceiling, if the cover is some sort of plastic (ie it would give a little) and you can’t see anything obvious other than a tiny opening between the bit that connects to the ceiling and the cover itself, get a 2p coin and twist it – the cover pops open. I tried a dull knife and a flat screwdriver but only the penny worked.
Keywords: 2d light bulb change, drum flush light fitting
“D” post of Dec 20th 2019, followed your directions, worked a treat, thanks for sharing.
Guess there should be an IQ test before people are allowed to design houses, and especially the lights and windows and furnaces therein!
Have more obnoxious lights/globes on the ceiling than anyone would believe. Probably will have to pay a handyman to come and change the lightbulb inside this neckless round glass globe, before I break it–or my neck!–trying to get the dang thing OFF so I can replace the bulb. Impossible! 🙁
I would love to hear how to remove this one.
If I can attach a picture.
It’s square with no screws anywhere
Hi I have this square almost flush light fixture with a metal plate flush with the ceiling and a glass square dome protruding out a little. The light fixture is in a hall way and we need to change the light bulb. Any suggestions on how to remove the cover to get inside to change the bulb? Thank You Ciao
Thanks so much. I have the same fitting your correspondent Andy provided the solution to back in January 2018, and it worked perfectly.
It helped me enormously to know:
(i) that you can take the plastic cover off without damaging or unseating it; and
(ii) what the retaining clips look like.
Many thanks to you and Andy!
– Rick from Connecticut
Many thanks for your site. I too have a screw off glass fitting on a dome ceiling light.
I have been trying to change the bulb over the past few weeks, and was almost about to give up and break the glass and replace the fitting.
I tried RP7, did not work….. then saw the recommendation to hit it with a shoe 🙂
I tried this (shoe with a rubber heel, not a stilletto) and was able to budge the light fitting anti clockwise slightly and then unscrew the glass. All good now.
I should have used liquid soap, not RP7, as it would have been cleaner…. although I only had a few drops on old blanket I used to cover the carpet.
I’ll also be fitting LEDs and not over tightening the fitting…. which should last until my new place is completed, then this problem (if it happens again) is the next tenants issue.
I recently decided to install two ceiling fans in my 16′ x 50′ basement media room. I had earlier purchased a “ceiling brace and box kit”, so used that to install one of the fans. Two problems: 1. They are designed to be attached to 2x floor joists which are at least 16″ on centers. My ceiling joists are engineered beams made of 2x3s with OSB between them. The space between two of these is less than that provided by regular 2x floor joists, so I had to modify the braces. 2. The fan has a lot of “stuff” (brackets, wires, and controller) which must be mounted in or below the box. It was very difficult to make that work, but I finally did.
I still have to mount the second fan. Are brace kits made with larger boxes?, or should I make my own “kit” with a larger metal box mounted to a 2×4? (Actually, as I was composing this, I decided that’s what I should do).
Well, after the first fan was installed, I tried it out and everything seemed to be working. The circuit is a switched circuit, but the fan has its own remote control. I checked out all the functions, and turned it off for the evening. The next day, I turned it back on and increased the brightness with the remote. Then the remote quit working. I couldn’t change anything – fan speed or direction, light brightness. The control box mounted in the ceiling box seems to just remember what it was last set at.
Should I call the dealer or the manufacture’s help line? (The dealer is three time zones later than me, and I don’t know where the mfr is). Or should I open the second fan shipping box and try the other remote (they are identical models)? Or should I assume the fan controller is defective and install the one included with the second fan? Of course, the last two options would be for diagnostics, I would expect the dealer to make good on a defective part.
P.S. added in edit: I’m using the existing basement light circuit. The builder put in plastic side-mount boxes with 12 Ga wire, which comes in to the box, then goes out to the next box. It’s this through-connection, plus the heavy wire which makes the wiring physically difficult. I am using two of the three locations for the fan (I may remove the third, since it’s in the same room). It’s a dedicated 20A circuit! according to https://www.affordablelectricians.com.au/electrician-noosa.html
Thank goodness I found this site. I got a new table lamp with the pedestal and a crystal globe. It had the three clips inside the globe . I carefully tried to pull it up but the springs were really strong and tight. Also there was nothing to line up to slip the dome off. After reading all your research, I turned the fixture upside down and pulled carefully. Bam! It came right off. I put in a color changing bulb, squeezed the three clip upwards and even though the springs were really strong I finally slid the globe over them. Wa la, task completed and didn’t break a thing. Thank you so much for all the research you have done and posted on your site. You saved the day. My crystal globe morphs into each color and it’s beautiful. 👍
Bless you Lisa who wrote 14th July 2017 in response to Tom of 24th Feb 2017. I have the exact same old glass light fixture and have spent weeks pulling the metal lever in and out, sliding it right and left and up and down and turning and tugging the fixture everywhichway. I’ve taken photos to a lighting and electrical shop and they’d no idea. I trawled the internet for similar fixtures but saw nothing until I recognised Tom’s photo and the mysterious metal tab. Then I saw your response and it took me all of a minute to get it down. Who’d have guessed slide tab left at the same time as turn fixture right? Thank you!
Correction to one just sent. Tom wrote 2016 not 2017.
Thank you very much!
I spent a couple of hours trying to get the dome out of my bathroom
light/fan to replace a light bulb. Some sites suggested putting tape on the
glass dome to unscrew and pull it out. No luck 🙁
Then I saw the part about it being possibly spring loaded.
I grabbed the outer ring and pulled down. Yay- it came down and
I was able to replace the lightbulb! Much appreciated.
Re the “metal tan” mentioned by Tom and Lisa, “RECEIVED FROM TOM ON 24 FEBRUARY 2016”. I have a similar but not identical mechanism that caused me a lot of trouble. Flat tab parallel to ceiling woudln’t shift and there was no indication of which way it was supposed to shift. Following suggestions to slide sideways, I unwittingly applied a lot of pressure on the mounting in the wrong directions before finally making it shift by pulling outwards. It runs right though the mounting and snags the lip of the glass dome on the far side to hold it. Easing it out eventually releases the dome, which can then be manoeuvred off over the lamp holder with care. (Turned out lamp holder was knackered… but that’s anotherr story)
I have a oyster ceiling light with a metal ring around it just trying to change the light globe. Googled it but doesn’t help any suggestions rather than call a technician which will cost
I’m losing my mind trying to get globes off of a bathroom fixture. There are 4 globes attached to a bar – they each screw into a base. They unscrew and get loose but don’t come off. There are no screws to loosen. The fixture was purchased in 2007 and thinking it would be less frustrating to buy a new light.
We have a bathroom overhead light fixture exactly like the round plastic framed one that holds the translucent light cover. I think it is the one where you state: “This one got solved by Andy who wrote to me on 23 January 2018. ‘My fixture looks identical to one of the unsolved ones on your page. Just pull one side down to access’.”
Actually, I pulled down on both sides once I discovered the one side would pull down. I cannot thank Andy, and your website, for showing me how to solve this possible divorce making problem.